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Posted By mandator Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:08 PM
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Time to give the old Biederman thread a bump..




Stopped by John's shop today, he had dropped off the front fenders to his painter after the Macungie show for media blasting and a finish of epoxy primer to protect them until we can get the hood resolved. Then he'll get all the new parts painted blue at one time...


Here's the newly installed fenders with an epoxy finish..





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I'm back from Macungie where I had an amazing amount of interest in both the truck and the fender fabrication work. I became aware of the truck in the early 2000s, finally was able to buy it in 2007 so it has been a long haul. Fun to get it to this point. The fenders are back off and to the painter for prep work while we finish the hood fit problems. We're in the home stretch. Anybody know where I can find a decent period correct 10' dump body for it?
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I go to a lot of large car shows. Some of the best cars are the ones that are left unfinished, (not rat rod crap) so you can see all the welding and mods that go into a car.
I saw a hot rod once that was left as fabbed on one side and finished and painted on the other side, a real eye opener to the novice


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John got the Biederman out into the sunshine Wednesday after a long hibernation, getting it ready to take to the truck show in Macungie PA.





Loaded up and ready to go....



Today's pictures from the show, the Biederman makes its debut. Still needs a bit more paint on the front end, but John said he's had a ton of interest in the truck and the bodywork 0 Guess I should have sent him up with business cards.



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Tonight we got the lower hood side plug welded to the driver's fender, then the lapped seams were brushed with SPI epoxy primer from both sides to seal out the elements. John will be taking this to a couple shows with the fenders in bare metal, so we needed to seal those areas.





With the fenders all one piece again, we took them to John's shop for re-assembly. First order of business is to add some welting to the fender area adjacent to the cab's lower cowl area...





..then bolted up the fenders and battery tray.. This should give John a head start on the finishing touches tomorrow before loading it up for the Macungie Truck show.











Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:31 PM by MP&C
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The bolting flanges were cut out of 12 gauge steel, and tacked in place using the TIG. Then welded and dressed..







































Next to trim the front of the fender, a laser is set up 13-3/4" above the table holding the fender. This is the differential we measured off the truck from the bumper filler panel down to the running board. all four corners on the table are checked to insure the laser is set correctly. Then the laser line is transposed to the fender and trimmed..































The height was adjusted by sliding the blocks forward/backward in the fender.















Front mounting flange TIG welded in place and welds dressed..















Filler panel fitted to the fender and plug welded...























Test fit onto the truck, aligned to the lower hood side and cleco'ed in place.































We'll get the lower hood side welded on tomorrow evening, holes drilled, and fenders bolted up to the truck.
Monday, June 12, 2017 4:25 PM by MP&C
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Yesterday I finished up the TIG welding on the rust/rub repair...








This area has a recess so it doesn't rub the side of the cab... (not supposed to anyhow...)





Next to clamp the front repair section, the vise grips tend to rotate after clamped and allow the weld joint to open. So to fix the gravity issue, we broke out the painters tape..
















16 gauge sheet metal wiring, gotta love it!








Next time we'll get the filler panel added to the Driver's fender..


Monday, June 12, 2017 5:39 AM by MP&C
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Saturday's progress on the Biederman. John is taking it to the truck show in Macungie PA so we're trying to get the fenders complete so he can bolt them on and answer questions all day about their bare metal finish.. :D


With the lower hood side cleco'ed to the passenger fender using wing nut clecos to pull things up nice and tight, lets get some plug welds done to join all three parts together...














Passenger fender lapped seams then had SPI epoxy brushed in from both sides to seal in case he runs into rain. We he returns they'll be ready for media blasting and paint..





Next onto the Driver fender, the remainder of the flange from the old filler panel is removed, a cut off wheel is used for releasing the OEM spot welds..














Next, we had a rub issue where the fender was a bit close to the cab....note the flat area, as well as a rust through. So we'll just trim this out and replace..








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This evening we took the passenger fender over to John's so we could mock it up on the truck and locate/cleco it to the lower hood side..














The wing nut cleco's used in about four spots to hold things good and snug....





Back at the shop, we'll get this plug welded on Saturday..





Monday, June 12, 2017 5:34 AM by MP&C
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Some more progress on the Biederman fenders, here's where we left off last time...





On the passenger fender, we removed the cleco's holding the filler panel and put John to work media blasting the flanges where the panels overlapped..








Cleco holes were enlarged on the filler panel flange to accommodate plug welds and the two parts welded together...








After grinding the welds, John brushed some SPI epoxy in the lapped panels to seal them up..














Back on the driver's fender, time to trim off the rusted and bent front edge....











The door skin removal tool is used to unwrap the wired edge...








Once the wrap is broken free, the top is scored with a cutoff wheel and then peeled around. No cuts on the wire as this may weaken it..








Trimmed and clamped in place for a test fit..



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