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By Dieseldoug - Friday, November 19, 2010 2:12 PM
Did anyone go to the L&H auction today in Hanover PA?? I planned to go, but had to change plans at the last minute. I was wondering how many were there and what the trucks and parts were going for.
By Bruce Ohnstad - Friday, November 19, 2010 5:45 PM
I wish I could have been there too, Doug.  Hope to hear and see all the goodies.

Bruce
By 45LMSWM - Saturday, November 20, 2010 1:49 AM
I got there late and missed the truck auction. Most of the parts seemed to have sold for real cheap, as did the unrestored trucks, from what I was told.

The B-75 brought in I think $52,000. The Autocar and one of the restored Whites went for Low $30s.

-John
By FredD - Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:15 PM
Dieseldoug (11/19/2010)
Did anyone go to the L&H auction today in Hanover PA?? I planned to go, but had to change plans at the last minute. I was wondering how many were there and what the trucks and parts were going for.


Doug, you missed a good Acar parts auction. If you had been there you could have bought the Acar floor mat for $575 plus. They had more Acar parts than White but I did find a hood piece I need. I think the prices on the restored trucks were considerably more than most people expected. There was a good crowd. The least any truck brought was $800 and they were rough and non runners.

Daryll Gushee was there and bought 7 unrestored Acars and the 359 Pete.
By Daryl Gushee - Sunday, November 21, 2010 7:37 PM
Fred is pretty close with the report.
Restored trucks...
52 white wc-22...$21,000
54 Acar dc-75......$31,000
60 white TD9000.$33,000
63 mack B-75...... $53,000
65 white TDL-4464. $27,500
Scrap guys bought 5 trucks. One was a very nice 67 White Freightliner coe with a detroit. Looked like an easy restoration. $1,000. When I found out the scrappers bought it I tried to buy it from them but I was to late. It was the first to go to the crusher.
They got the 3 Autocar c-65's but from what I understand Glenn has talked the scrappers into leaving them for a couple days so some Autocar enthusiasts can buy them.
I had to outbid the scrap guys to purchase 5 of the 6 unrestored Autocars that I bought. One I actually had to pay what it was worth.
Some parts went high some went low. Damn scrappers bought some nice sheet metal but you had to know what it fit in order to bid. Nothing was tagged with a description. I got some nice Autocar sheet metal for the DC-100's that I bought but looking around after the auction I saw the scrappers had some loaded that I missed. It wasn't so nice any more.
I managed to buy most of the H series Cummins parts but watched the scrap guys load a 1693 Cat that Glenn said was a good engine.
I have pictures of my first load out. I'll get them posted for you.
By dieselsmoke - Monday, November 22, 2010 12:46 AM
Daryl,  thanks for saving what you could. It ticks me off to no end hearing that the scrappers got what they did. Makes me sick,they dont have a clue. damn scrappers.
By Eddy Lucast - Monday, November 22, 2010 1:25 AM
You'll never be able to stop the scrappers. I've come to the conclusion we'd all be better off trying to educate them. I've been talking to one in our area after seeing him headed to the scrap yard with a truck cut up. He at least calls me now before he cuts something up. Most of them are trying to earn a living and if there's a way to make better money they'll listen as referenced in Daryls' comment about the Autocar stuff being left for a couple of days. Now if I could get that 20 dollar bill tree to start growing again.
By Dieseldoug - Monday, November 22, 2010 2:07 PM
Hi Fred and Daryl,

Thanks for the report and comments. I was really pi##ed that I had to miss the soiree. I went back and looked at Glens' sell sheet that he sent me this summer before the filing. Look were the prices were before...

WC 22  $13,000.00

65 4464  $15,000.00

60 9000 sleeper $15,000.00

53 Acar  $15,000.00

B-75 Mack  $15000.00

Freightliner $1000.00

I missed the 59 A75 he had by a couple of days, and that went for $5000.00. judging by the auction prices it would have sold for at least  $25,000.00. That was in the same shape as the Whites.
By FredD - Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:26 AM
Here is the Pete that  Daryl bought and his truck with trailer being loaded at the L and H auction.
By Mackdaddy - Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:11 AM
The price list that Diesel Doug states was some fair pricing considering the condition of those trucks. I guess I am glad I didn't know it then or I may have had a White in the collection. I have admired those trucks since I first saw them in 2000 at Valley Forge. I am glad to see that there is some decent pricing out there for trucks that are in great condition.
By Bruce Ohnstad - Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:59 AM
Are those brake drums I see on the pallets from Fred's pictures?   I'm looking for White brake drums for 6 spoke wheels from the 1940s/50s.   Seem to measure 6.5" wide surface but I need to pull the wheels to get all the measurements.  I've got part numbers off them too. 

Don't throw those drums in the shredder!  I could use a radius rod and spring pins from the heavy White rear suspensions if those trucks got scrapped.

Bruce

612 824 5843   bruce.ohnstad@mts.com
By FredD - Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:22 AM
Bruce Ohnstad (11/23/2010)
Are those brake drums I see on the pallets from Fred's pictures?   I'm looking for White brake drums for 6 spoke wheels from the 1940s/50s.   Seem to measure 6.5" wide surface but I need to pull the wheels to get all the measurements.  I've got part numbers off them too. 

Don't throw those drums in the shredder!  I could use a radius rod and spring pins from the heavy White rear suspensions if those trucks got scrapped.

Bruce

612 824 5843   bruce.ohnstad@mts.com


Bruce, if those are drums I missed them. I did see some Dayton hubs but there were no drums with them.

By Dieseldoug - Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:11 PM
I'm glad to see that Daryl got the Pete. I was wondering where it went to. It is a nice unmolested piece. I still can't believe that Mack B-75 brought more than the 53 Acar. You just never know...

Does anyone know who acquired or where the rest of the iron went?? Curious... 
By Daryl Gushee - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:11 AM
Dieseldoug (11/23/2010)
I'm glad to see that Daryl got the Pete. I was wondering where it went to. It is a nice unmolested piece. I still can't believe that Mack B-75 brought more than the 53 Acar. You just never know...

Does anyone know who acquired or where the rest of the iron went?? Curious... 


I have found out the scrap guys bought 9 trucks. These were all restorable. The White Freightliner and one other got scrapped before Glenn could stop them. He has been scrambling to save the other 7. I guess he has them all covered thanks to Roger Gerhart and Erv Bickford. I saved 6 of them by outbidding the scrappers at the auction. 5 Autocar DC100's and a DC75TL. The big Acar with the reefer sold to a very nice local man, and I am not sure where the rest of the unrestored trucks went.
By Shifty - Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:45 PM
I brought mine home today.
By peterj - Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:14 AM
I like that.. bring it to syracuse ,even on the trailer....
By chocko - Thursday, November 25, 2010 4:35 AM
Well along with the ones that Daryl bought another one in good hands. Good save by you guys. Joe D.
By MikeHarbison - Thursday, November 25, 2010 6:38 AM
Does anyone have a complete list?I'd like to know what the unrestored stuff brought.
By Daryl Gushee - Friday, November 26, 2010 1:55 AM
MikeHarbison (11/25/2010)
Does anyone have a complete list?I'd like to know what the unrestored stuff brought.


My list isn't quite complete. This is the ones I wrote down. I also know the fate of some of them. There were about 10 I did not write down and a good portion of those were purchased by the scrap guys. To my knowledge only 2 made it to the scrap yard before Glenn Longstreth kicked into action and convinced the scrap man to sell them back to collectors.

My hat goes off to Glenn for his effort in finding people to purchase these doomed trucks.

56 Mack B-61............................8,000
63 Autocar DCU........................800.........Bought by scrappers and has been saved
68 Pete 359a...........................13,000
69 Autocar DC9964 w/reefer...4,000
67 White Freightliner T8164.....1,000......... Went to scrap. Not saved in time.
46 Autocar DC100.....................1,600
72 Autocar A64B........................6,000
46 Autocar DC100.....................1,600
59 Autocar DCU75.....................1,100
51 Autocar DC75.......................800.........Bought by scrappers and has been saved
59 White TD9000......................1700
2) 57 1) 59 Autocar C-65T.........Around 800 each....Bought by scrappers and have been saved
50 White WC-28 Jumbo cab......1500
62 White TD9000.......................900
57 Autocar DC-75TL...................1300
54 Autocar DC100......................1800
57 Autocar DCU75......................1000.......Bought by scrappers and has been saved.
50 Autocar C70TS.......................?.............Bought by scrappers and has been saved.
45 Autocar DC100......................1000
47 Autocar DC100.......................700
4? Autocar DC100........................2600
By jeeperscreepers - Friday, November 26, 2010 2:15 AM
My hat goes off to Glenn for saving them.  He deserves a great deal of recognition for his efforts.  Glenn, job well done!!!!!!!!!!!!
By roadcommander300 - Friday, November 26, 2010 3:14 AM
who ended up getting those short nosed sleeper cab autocars,i think they were the dcu75s,i thought the auction was saturday and sunday,so i missed it,i would have went for those 2
By dieselsmoke - Friday, November 26, 2010 11:28 AM
Thank you Glenn for your effort in saving those trucks, much appreciated. Thank you Daryl as well for out bidding the scrappers. If I had the money I would have been there as well.
By MikeHarbison - Friday, November 26, 2010 12:16 PM
Thanks Daryl.That B-61 looked like it was pretty good shape,musta been darn good to bring $8000.Good thing my wife doesn't ever read these posts,she'd be calling the auctioneers.
By Daryl Gushee - Friday, November 26, 2010 2:59 PM
1st load from Glenn Longstreth's
45 Autocar DC100, 68 Peterbuilt, Lots of early Cummins parts

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By Bruce Ohnstad - Monday, November 29, 2010 7:29 AM
So glad some of these were saved.  Shifty, glad to see you got one, it sure looks good.  Is that with the Diesel?  I'm assuming the big gas engines got scrapped, too bad, they would have been good for somebody.

Shifty, when you get some time it would be great to see that big rear axle, looks like a double reduction, just a question of which model, 45C or 43C.  I think they drop in differently.

Bruce
By Shifty - Monday, November 29, 2010 4:32 PM
Bruce

 It was nice out today, so I did get a couple pictures, and had a chance to look it over some.

 Hope to get it inside soon.

 I was after the Jumbo cab White because it's rare, it's a diesel, and it's a 28.

 (For those that don't know the WC 28s were the big ones. They made a WC 32, but they were off road trucks, and also some of the WC 28s were off road.)

 The key to it though was getting to spare jumbo cab the was in the parts auction.

I was fortunate to end up with both.

 The engine does turn, so hopefully it will be a running truck if I'm lucky.

Notice I put a bumper on it today to see how it looks.

Yes that is a deluxe tree stand across the road.
By Daryl Gushee - Tuesday, December 21, 2010 4:40 PM
2nd load from Glenn Longstreth's auction. 1946 Autocar DC-100 set forward axle with a NH-200 Cummins and a 1940's Autocar DC-100 set back axle with a Cummins HRBB.
Also some DC-100 sheet metal parts and a spare complete NH200 Cummins.


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By Bruce Ohnstad - Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:53 PM
now you're haulin'!  Those look great.  When I heard you got a half dozen I figured it would be quite an eyefull.  I could spend some time in your shop, and wouldn't mind if you put me to work...

On the winch truck the fifth wheel looks set behind the axle.  Would that be for some special trailer or winching? 

Bruce
By Daryl Gushee - Wednesday, December 22, 2010 4:35 PM
Bruce,
   Come on up! I'll put you to work. I have more projects than I have time for. You don't even need to bring a toolbox, I got plenty of those too.
   I didn't even notice the 5th wheel position until you pointed it out. I wonder why it is back so far? It would sure steer easier that way.


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By acar59 - Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:34 PM
Does anybody know who got the Autocar 72 A64B parts truck from Glenn's Auction?
By roadcommander300 - Friday, December 24, 2010 3:03 AM
who ended up getting those dcu75 short nose sleeper autocars,i wanted them,hey daryl,ill come work for ya,no lie
By Daryl Gushee - Monday, January 03, 2011 3:23 PM
Another load from the auction. A 1946 Autocar DC100 with a HRBB Cummins and a 1958 DC75TL with a 180 Cummins. Plus some more decent sheet metal for the restorations.

The trailer is being pulled by my 1988 International 9300 eagle that I purchased new. She's still working everyday.

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By RobBalfour - Monday, January 03, 2011 4:28 PM
Daryl,,,that yellow Lussier truck sat for sale up in Oxford for a while back about 15(?) years ago. I looked at it a few times.Has to be the same truck.Too much of a coincidence for 2 to be around.
By Daryl Gushee - Monday, January 03, 2011 4:33 PM
Rob,
   I remember it up there also. I stopped and looked at it once. I was just getting into the old trucks then.
By roadcommander300 - Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:35 AM
daryl what is that huge blue kenworth in the back all about
By Daryl Gushee - Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:10 PM
roadcommander300 (1/13/2011)
daryl what is that huge blue kenworth in the back all about


You must have missed the WAI about a month ago. It was the 65 KW 884C that you can see in the background. It is a former prime mover for NASA. Also the topic "moving day at the cape" has a discussion about it.
By Jeff Lakaszcyck - Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:22 PM
Here's the WAI thread on Daryl's big KW:

http://forums.aths.org/InstantForum2010/101945/What-Am-I-for-Wednesday-111010?PageIndex=1
By Doug Blevins - Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:39 PM
Jeff, I missed the WAI also! My Mother in law worked for Morton Thiakol  for many years, she lived in Brigham City Utah and we have lots of pictures with her and alot of the space shuttle Astronaughts. Unfortunatly she died of Lymphoma in 97. I never got to see where she worked, but I understand there were several cool pieces of equipment in use there.......Doug
By roadcommander300 - Thursday, January 13, 2011 6:21 PM
wow
By junkmandan - Friday, January 14, 2011 3:59 AM
George Tackaberry has a big brute of an International Westcoaster that came from Morton Thiokol also,showed it at Louisville 3-4 years ago .
By Daryl Gushee - Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:01 AM
junkmandan (1/14/2011)
George Tackaberry has a big brute of an International Westcoaster that came from Morton Thiokol also,showed it at Louisville 3-4 years ago .


Anyone have pictures of it? Luv them westcoasters.
By Robby359 - Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:32 AM
Here ya go.
By Daryl Gushee - Sunday, January 16, 2011 3:07 PM
That Tackaberry Westcoaster is a nice truck.