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By Drew Waller - Friday, April 16, 2010 7:23 AM
After 2 years of pinching pennies and saving, I finally got the title and keys to my White last month. I called around talking to various towing companies, and I've settled on one that is hauling it to my parent's house on a roll-back. Tomorrow morning at 10 AM I am meeting the tow driver at Lester Brown's house to pick up my White. I have my camera batteries in the charger right now, so they'll be fresh and ready to go. I'll take plenty of pictures for everyone and post them on here tomorrow evening.

Once its home and unloaded, I have a meeting with the pressure washer to find out what is under all of the dirt, mouse poop, grease, loose paint, and rust. :D
By TEWHITEIV - Friday, April 16, 2010 8:22 AM
 Congratulations on getting your truck.  Just don't wash away all of the trucks character.:D
By Drew Waller - Friday, April 16, 2010 8:28 AM
TEWHITEIV (4/16/2010)
Don't wash away all of the trucks charater.:D

I'm not washing away the character, I'm adding to in the form of Rustoleum red primer after a good scrubbing with a wire wheel.
By TonyClemens - Friday, April 16, 2010 11:07 AM
Very good news! You'll be taking it to shows before you know it.
By newfie-trucker - Friday, April 16, 2010 11:10 AM
drew congrats...  hope to see pics of it soon .. what are the specs on it? what are your plans for the truck ?
By SteveO - Friday, April 16, 2010 2:05 PM
That's great news, don't forget to have a can of wasp spray along when you go to pick it up. You might have to evict some wasps when you start moving it around.
By RobBalfour - Friday, April 16, 2010 2:08 PM
Yee-hah! We can pace each other's progress.I have the advantage in a running truck,,you have the advantage in being younger and more ambitious LOL:D
By EPRSPLIT - Friday, April 16, 2010 3:09 PM
Good for your Drew, that's a great truck to get started with.
By Drew Waller - Friday, April 16, 2010 5:29 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys! Last time I was over there I had to evict a cat and a family of mice. Hopefully nothing else has moved in yet, but I'll be armed to the teeth tomorrow morning. My grandpaw is going with me to lend a hand, it should be amusing to say the least.

Rob, you have me beat in the source of income section, I'll do what I can to slow down the rust until I have a steady source of income for the summer.

Newfie, its a 1956 White 9000TD with a J-160 Cummins that has 15000 miles on a total overhaul and spins freely, a Fuller R-46 8-speed transmission, no idea on the rear gear ratio, and its sitting on dry rotted 11.00x22.00 rubber. It has a Hiab 6600 lb capacity crane mounted between the cab and the 13 ft. dump flat bed.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2290965340100720268ddpsgJ

I've pulled my 1946 IH I-4 to the Spencer, NC Show behind my 66 Chevy C-10 that has a 250 straight 6 and 3 on the tree with a 3.73 non-posi rear, and 7500 lbs of tractor and trailer was almost too much for my truck to pull. I put electric trailer brakes on my Chevy before the show so that stopping would be much easier. One day after Brittany and I are married and the Chevy, the IH and the White are restored, I'd like to start a business restoring antique farm tractors, with the occasional pickup or semi truck mixed in to generate some income to buy more toys. Plus it would be a way to continue to work on old equipment and have fun with them without cluttering up my shop (one day I'll build the one I want) and filling the yard up. From what I've been told, my White has pulled loads as big as 20,000 lbs, so that means it can pull literally any tractor that I would be up to restoring. Plus the crane on it would make it far easier to pull an engine out of a pickup in a junkyard, or load tractor tires to haul them home. The dump bed has its perks too, when mom wants to put mulch out in the flowerbeds, Dad, Austin, and I have to make multiple trips in his Dodge and my Chevy to haul enough home, and the White could get all we need and then some.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2576221250100720268HyttVh
By Jeff Lakaszcyck - Friday, April 16, 2010 5:58 PM
Congratulations Drew, now the fun begins !
By Tatra - Friday, April 16, 2010 11:46 PM
Joining the well wishers also. One question (merely out of ineterst): will you be keeping the J160 or modifying it for more power? Same for the gearing. Reason I'm asking is you say you'll be using the truck to go to shows as well as possibly do some odd work with it - I have a feeling with its specs you'll probably not see more than 55 MPH on a run...

Good luck with it, whichever option you take.

T

By John_Costley - Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:37 AM
Drew,

Glad to hear it.Heck, with that crane and dump bed, if you get it running you can be a scrap man during the summer when you arent in school.Load junk with the crane, go to the scrap yard and unload by dumping.Good summer income.John

By MikeF - Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:48 AM
Drew-best of luck today. I know about the mouse waste-just brought home a Mack that was full of the stuff-even in the air cleaner and bell housing!  Wear a mask when you're around that stuff-it can be nasty.  You may want to topcoat your primer with some type of inexpensive rattle can or brush on enamel topcoat as the primer may hold moisture.  Please post some pics when you get her home-it'll be a good day however it goes. 
By chocko - Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:07 AM
Good Luck with the White.Good original specs. with the J 160 Cummins and 8 speed RR. The bad part with J and C Series Cummins are parts avaibility but have unique sound of their own.Top road speed will probably be at least 62 MPH plenty of speed with an older truck. I stay in right lane with my old trucks and no trouble so far. MBF I was looking at BIg Mack Site and saw same F Model in Avatar did not realize it was you. How is cab on F Model it looks good. The 237 5 speed is a great combo. Lots of torque from 237 HP. Joe D.
By Drew Waller - Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:34 AM
Thanks guys! The tow driver just left about 20 minutes ago, he was a really nice guy. Right before we started unloading my White, he said that he wanted some pictures for himself because he had never hauled anything as old as it before. My grandpaw met me there and he helped us load and unload it. I was lucky enough to get to steer it up onto and off of the rollback. For the inquiring minds that want to know, the tow truck is a 2002 KW T300.

Steven Brown told me that the truck could keep up on the interstate, so that makes me think it will run 65+, but it won't be going anywhere for a while. I think I'm going to leave it set up exactly how it is. If anything will get changed or added on, it will be lap seat belts, upgrade all of the bulbs in the marker lights to LEDs, and changing the batteries over to 2 12 volt-800 CCA or 3 12 volt-600 CCA batteries with a disconnect switch under the driver's door. Ah, and a set of ATHS mudflaps with these: White mudflap weights.

John, I had thought of that too, it'd keep those goobers at the junk yard from dinging up my Chevy more than it already has been. It'd be a good source of parts and fuel money.

Chocko, I live for the right lane, even in my DD Honda Accord. You don't get a ticket when you're running the limit (or 5 under in the case of the Chevy, its not a fan of 65 or 70 mph zones).
By White9064TD - Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:16 AM
Only 1 pictures???????????  Where is the rest of the story???????????  Glad you got the truck home nice and safe.  Snowed here just a while ago.
By tomchristopher71 - Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:26 PM
Drew,

For the rust you can cover it up with some used motor oil or if you have some spare time, grind or sand it off and use a rust preventative paint. I've used both Por15 and KBS on parts of my truck until I have time to actually repaint everything. KBS makes a silver color that is UV protected, acts as a primer and as a top coat if needed. http://www.kbs-coatings.com/

Good luck and post pictures of the process. You know how we all love pictures here at the Cafe.
By TonyClemens - Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:57 PM
I got to wondering when you said a rollback was going to carry it home. I've never seen one that big, especially with a tag axle. I don't think the average rollback could carry that much weight but that's not the average rollback. Glad you got it home safe.
By Freight_train From Bama - Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:04 PM
TonyClemens (4/17/2010)
I got to wondering when you said a rollback was going to carry it home. I've never seen one that big, especially with a tag axle. I don't think the average rollback could carry that much weight but that's not the average rollback. Glad you got it home safe.

We got roll backs down here that  have dual tandam rears.Not tag axles but live axles.Buddy of mine bought 2 deuce and a halfs out of a scrap yard and cut them up for parts.They came one at a time on a roll back.14,000lbs of 6x6 truck on a roll back is a sight to see!

By Drew Waller - Saturday, April 17, 2010 6:05 PM
Tony, that rollback was a midsized one in this area. There is another towing company that has one of the dual tandems like Freight Train said, and I think the Sunbelt rental place has one of them too. The driver said that he regularly hauls backhoes and farm equipment, and that his truck was good for 20,000 lbs. I have some kind of metal primer that is pretty thick for paint, its like painting with Elmer's Glue, I may use that so it doesn't go bad in the garage. As for a top coat, I have plenty of Farmall red around here.

I'm happy I found a company that had a rollback. When we were loading it, the driver's side steer tire sprung a leak, and I'd hate for that to have disintegrated going down the road had some of the wheels stayed on the ground. Once we got home, the driver had unchained it and was raising the bed up and he told me to hang on a second, he wanted some pictures of the White for himself. He said he didn't remember ever seeing a truck like mine or having hauled something as old, and it would make a good story to tell his employees.

All of the pictures are now in my Webshots album for the White. http://rides.webshots.com/album/562110241HoeGHI?start=144
By MikeF - Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:59 AM
That's a fine addition to any back yard.  That W-4 will look good sitting on the flatbed.
By Daryl Gushee - Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:37 AM
That's a nice looking White. I really like the set up.
Speaking of big rollbacks, I have a International 5000 series with a 28' rollback that I commonly put 36,000# on. It's a brute.
By Dennis Wells AKA Smiley - Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:44 AM
Daryl Gushee (4/18/2010)
That's a nice looking White. I really like the set up.
Speaking of big rollbacks, I have a International 5000 series with a 28' rollback that I commonly put 36,000# on. It's a brute.

I have the same on a International 4900, We put backhoes and 60 ' booms on it all the time but prefer lowbeds.

By Drew Waller - Monday, April 19, 2010 7:43 PM
I made some progress on it today. I got the shop-vac out and vacuumed everything out of the cab, its spotless in there except for the dirt and rust that couldn't be scraped off with the hose. I did find an interesting collection of stuff in there though. Here's the list: a 2.5lb BC fire extinguisher last serviced in 1974, a 16 fl oz plastic bottle of Cheerwine with a metal screw off top (I'm too young to remember those, mom guessed mid/late 80s), the standard issue reflective plastic triangles in red case, a body hammer, the original dog-bone lug wrench with cross handle, three leather gloves, a pillow case, a matching ice scraper and 12 inch ruler from Winks BBQ here in Salisbury, an empty can of ether, some insulation/landscape fabric that smelled like mouse poo, the headliner in quarter-sized chunks behind the seats, general trash, Jimmy Hoffa, and the grand prize: an almost complete set of IH Reflector-Flares. I've never heard or seen anything like them. I looked on ebay, and there was a few sets for sale, and one of them had the red cloth flags on there too. The box was a little dinged up, but everything is there except for the flags.

From what I was able to find, the floor is about was I was expecting, it has pinholes here and there, but nothing that can't be fixed. The front strap on the fuel tank is missing a 6" section along the bottom, so I may be dropping the fuel tank sooner than I thought. I left a mouse trap next to the shifter with a fresh pecan just in case any passengers came along with the truck.

Sunday afternoon I crammed my black lab and navigator, Biskit, in the cab for a picture or two. Brittany took the pictures while I was bribing him with milkbones. He gave me this look when I set him back on the ground that I usually get when he wants a ride, and I promised him that we'd go on one in it in a few years. Next Monday I'm hoping it will be pretty so that I can pressure wash the loose paint off and fix the bent portion of the hood. I'm going to go to Northern Tool and get a good tarp to cover the cab/hoods/fenders with, its not a garage, but it will do for the time being.
By Richard - Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:34 AM
Drew  You are on your way!!!  It all starts with the first clean out and inspection.  Keep us posted and good luck.
By Drew Waller - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:59 AM
I figured this would be the best place to put the video that I made of the truck last weekend.  Its only a walk-around description, but it has me itching to get it running in the coming months.

White walk around
By peterj - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:38 AM
nice .....
By TonyClemens - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:22 AM
I'm anxious to see Part II. Sure wish the owners of these trucks would at least throw a tarp over them instead of letting them sit exposed to the weather.
By Drew Waller - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:48 PM
TonyClemens (5/12/2010)
Sure wish the owners of these trucks would at least throw a tarp over them instead of letting them sit exposed to the weather.

Tony, when I went to look at my White the first time, I asked about why it wasn't in a barn or garage.  I was told that at one point they had so many cars and trucks that they had to pick and choose what was in the garage.  The White on the cover of the May/June 1998 WOT was in the barn (I think some of my missing parts were donated to its restoration), but some of the other vehicles I would have left outside.  I can understand some like a mid-20's Grant sedan, a late 20's Dodge coupe (in boxes), a fully restored Jeep FC-170, and most of a 1918 Autocar.  There were several other vehicles sitting outside:  2 Ford F-7 road tractors (one was scrapped, don't know about the other), a Mack B model gasser (sold), 2 more Jeep FC-170s (both beyond all help), a 50's era Nash, some kind of Mercedes Benz sedan from the 60s, a small Caterpillar dozer from the 60s (sold), a Gallion road grader (scrapped), and some kind of scraper pan (also scrapped).

Its rough looking, but the more I dig around on it, the more I find that is still good or easily repaired.  I haven't found a job for the summer yet, so buying parts for it will be slow going.  Now that I'm pretty much done cleaning it out, I'll put a lumber cover over the hood, cab, and crane and weigh it down really good so it won't blow off.
By TonyClemens - Wednesday, May 12, 2010 2:26 PM
The good part is the cab is made out of thick steel and can be cut and welded. Those rubber parts for the cowl and windshield/back glass should be a priority. At least you'll have them when you need them.